4 Weeks of Sex!

If your sex life is just not up to snuff, you may be going to the wrong church. Eastlake Community Church in Kirkland, WA recently had 4 Weeks of Sex. They even sent out a mailer to all the homes in their community to announce the 4 Weeks of Sex.

Who wants to go to a church that studies the Bible when you can go to a church that does 4 Weeks of Sex? Maybe they should stretch that out and do an entire year or two of sex. Imagine how many people they could rope in if they did that!

Comments

[Kim K]

I guess the pastor has to explain all that sex stuff fast because they have "short services". Also, it'd ironic that they have the words "God honoring" on there. When a church has to make a point that they are God honoring you know something is weird. Like our church which has a sign saying the sermons are "relevant." It's as if for thousands of years we've had irrelevant sermons and in the last 5 years pastors have suddenly figured out what relevancy is. I'm sure the staff at this church thinks their sex series is uber-relevant.

[Raymond McPherson]

Hey guys. I completely agree with all of your critiques on this subject, but can we put it to bed (no pun intended)?

[fourpointer]

Now, let me get this straight. We have gotten to the point in this country that a church brags about the fact that they have "loud music" and "SHORT SERVICES"???? Building friendships??? Having a blast??? Oops, my bad. At first, I didn't see that part about "honoring God." Oh, OK. That makes it all better now.

I get the feeling that many of the people in this "church" sit through the closing prayer with one hand on their Bible (if they have one) and one hand on the back of the pew, ready to bolt for the door as soon as they sound the last "Amen". After all, they gotta get a good seat at Shoney's!

PS--Feb 25--"Learn some new moves"?????? I don't even want to know!

[Dale Gehris]

I'm assuming there are no people over 30 attending this church. Imagine asking your out-of-state grandparents to come to church with you. YIKES!

[Trent Kastman]

This is just another example of last days apostasy as prophecied in 2 Tim. 3.

[Shma]

This is worshiping sex. God's Word isn't enough. God isn't enough. No they have to have sex to bring people in. And we wonder why God is judging Americia with all the distarers.

[Don]

ok, now i get a picture of the emergent seeker service attendant...
left hand- purpose drivel book
right hand- kama sutra
back pocket- gideons new testament(possibly stolen from the motel last night)

walk in to service, sit on one book, balance the other two.

christianity in america today is barely even a shadow of what it should be.

[carol]

"Real People?" As opposed to who? Mannequins? Ghosts? Loud music, having a blast, fun for the kids, and sermons on sex.
Maybe it's a blessing that the services are short.

[chad]

You guys get worked up. It's kind of funny. I don't get worked up over this kind of nonsence. What I do get worked up over is things of this nature: http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_7277523?source=most_viewed
which is an article about a local baptist church picketing a marines funeral! I never see this kind of stuff on this website. What say you about this?

[threegirldad]

Chad,

I live down the interstate from "Reverend Fred" and company, and just about everything they say and do makes me sick to my stomach. Picketing at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq is just the latest variation on a theme. They're very keen on picketing at funerals because of the attention it brings them.

[Pierce]

Chad,
Do you not have a clue? Fred Phelps is not operating a church but a cult. These people criminally abused their own children as documented by two of the adult children that left the family compound. To suggest that they represent fundamentalist Christians is laughable. Everyone knows that this family is crazy. They even picket independent baptist churches randomly like they did Soul's Harbor Baptist in Milwaukee, a little Baptist mission church with a very fundamentalist pastor. They chose them randomly out of the phone book in order to get media attention while in the city. You need to do your homework, buddy, and stop believing media smear attempts to link Nutcase Phelps with genuine Bible-believing Christians.

[L Kentala]

I find it extremely odd that this church is "hyping" sex vacations! I do think according to the Bible - God is very concerned with sex and basically does not want people to have it at all - unless they are married. Even then it is not in the context that this church is promoting. It's more of "if you can't control yourself then you must marry and then you can have sex" I find it almost comical that a church turns this on it's head and implies God wants married people to constantly have sex in every way possible, etc. So which is it?1. There is a God obsessed with people's genitals and that they NOT use them or 2. There is a God who wants married people to have sex constantly.

[Ken Silva]

Chad,

If Fred Phelps is relevant to this discussion, then Spencer Burke is representing that the emerging church movement believes in panentheism and universalism like he does.

But maybe we should get "all worked up" over websites like Addison Road where authors named Chad, who profess to be Christian, write things like:

"Sometimes obeying God feels like utter and complete sh*#, and the thing that pi#@*s me off about most Christians is that they won’t admit it... Sometimes obeying God feels like sh*#, and I’m ok with that."

http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/author/chad/

[tim]

Amazing. Adds new meaning to taking God's name (upon yourself and acting) in vain...

[Carol A.]

Considering this "church" attracts with such eye grabbers as:
"Loud Music, Real People, Fun Kids Programs, and Short Services"
on the other side their ad boasts "Honoring God, Building Relationships, Having a Blast"...really lacks any Biblical discernment or any reverence for a Holy Creator! There's nothing sacred with loud music, and nothing that is training a child in the way he should go with "fun kids programs"! Having a blast...well, that sums it up! The cross Jesus bore was not a "blast" for Him. The suffering of saints in persecution in centuries past was not a "blast". Do these modern day "sheeple" think they are better than Jesus or the saints of days gone by that they should expect their faith to be deepened through loud music, short messages and blasts?

How arrogant the modern church has become.

[Miriam Nard]

The Bible has sex in it. God created it. There's probably plenty He would like His people to understand about it, what's wrong (always outside of marriage) and what's right (practiced Biblically it is an activity that binds two people in a committed marriage relationship). Probably this church should not have used such sensational titles, but perhaps we should withhold judgment in the absence of factual data. Do you have any knowledge of the actual content of these messages?

[The Highland Host]

Quite a contrast to Rev. John Brown the Bible commentator, who did a whole year of sermons on the doctrine of Scripture. And I think I know which Church produced better marriages as well!

[Joe]

Our pastor started our church by preaching through the book of Leviticus verse by verse for over a year. Two years later he did Deuteronomy. Next winter he's doing Philippians. It's awesome.

[George]

Miriam,

I wanted to comment on the "content of these messages" comment that you've left. Although, I have never been to the church in question, a while ago, my family left a church shortly after they had a 4 week sex series. Yes, they talked about sex within the Biblical confines of marriage, but the pastor also talked coursely with double entendres and about frequency of the act as well as "the fact" that guys need it.

Perhaps topics like this would be more suited for a Bible study, rather than a church wide series with sensationalistic advertising.

We as a culture seem to have lost the reverance for God that we had at one time.

[Miriam]

I agree the church should differentiate itself from the rest of society by treating the subject of sex with respect and reverence. I don't agree that a church that advertises sex in such a sensational way must be condemned outright as being unBiblical. About the only thing that can be concluded from the ECC website is that the church may be guilty of poor judgment regarding its promotional content. Frankly, it doesn't seem all that bad to me. It seems fair to me to withhold judgment on the church's overall Biblical integrity in the absence of actual knowledge of the message content, and I certainly would not agree that all the hand-wringing over the "apostasy" of such a church is justified.

[Teresa]

You just have to wonder about the members of the church who continue to support this type of church. I know one way to tell the church they are going in the wrong direction- with hold funds. Go take your tithes and offerings to another church or ministry that is honoring God until this church leadership repents and gets back on track.

[Joshua]

not surprising, just came across their "church's website and they are doing these more sermons on sex.

2 timothy 4:3-4 is what I think of churches like this that are more intrested in pleasure than living for god.

[Christy]

Sounds like something for a marriage seminar rather than a Sunday service. Except that I'd really not be interested in learning "some new moves" at church.